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T O P I C R E V I E WwayfinderHello Linda world. This is a composite of a 15 year on and off friendship that has been incredibly hard to shake or get clarity on. I understand the nature of the Sun/square Uranus/Neptune has a lot to do with this. I am curious what others see in the chart and your perspective on the best way to hold space for a cordial relationship without letting those negative aspects suck us back in.We have wonderful synastry and not that I am exactly looking to have a close relationship with this person again but we have been wildly surrounded by mutual friends, interests and networks our entire lives. I would like to find as much peace as I can co-existing without getting sucked back into any drama. Thank you!RandallBump!SpringtimeflowerHi Wayfinder,I'm thinking it's your composite Saturn in 11th opposing Jupiter in the 5th with the POF there that keeps bringing you back together. It's possible that when transiting Uranus in Taurus finishes squaring this aspect of your composite then things will suddenly change and you'll both be liberated. I think Uranus went direct around 3 degrees earlier this month and by the middle of April it will pass the 5 degree mark. Good luck.Springwayfinder quote:Originally posted by Springtimeflower:Hi Wayfinder,I'm thinking it's your composite Saturn in 11th opposing Jupiter in the 5th with the POF there that keeps bringing you back together. It's possible that when transiting Uranus in Taurus finishes squaring this aspect of your composite then things will suddenly change and you'll both be liberated. I think Uranus went direct around 3 degrees earlier this month and by the middle of April it will pass the 5 degree mark. Good luck.SpringThank you Spring, this is very helpful. I was so tunnel vision on the Composite that I didn't even think to consider the transits aspecting it currently. This makes me wonder if this most recent wave has to do with the New Moon happening today conjunct that Saturn, hopefully a new chance at maturity and boundaries in the dynamic. Thank you again!wayfinder-toddhi wayfinderwell first off,this relationship is never going to be stable.the sun is conjunct to eris, opposed to nessus and square to Uranus and Neptune, and square to the moon/Saturn midpoint.eros is conjunct to Lilith and trine to the sun and eris and opposed to psyche.venus is sextile to chiron and opposed to pluto. these aspects show a extremely sexual attraction but no really a desire for love. I wood think that she has broken up with a previous relationship is trying to get with you or comfort.the emotional connection here is actually abusive,in that the intense sexual connection always has a painful side. the Saturn/moon aspect shows that feelings of devotion are present but opposed to Uranus and , these feelings will always be broken. there seems to be an underlying masochistic dynamic present. it going to feel good but then it is going to hurt afterwards.with Saturn opposed to orcus and Venus opposed to pluto and with eros opposed to psyche, the theme of the relationship is BDSM. so I don't know what to say.... if you like pleasure and pain,then this is the one for you, but don't think it will last.todd wayfinder quote:Originally posted by todd:hi wayfinderwell first off,this relationship is never going to be stable.the sun is conjunct to eris, opposed to nessus and square to Uranus and Neptune, and square to the moon/Saturn midpoint.eros is conjunct to Lilith and trine to the sun and eris and opposed to psyche.venus is sextile to chiron and opposed to pluto. these aspects show a extremely sexual attraction but no really a desire for love. I wood think that she has broken up with a previous relationship is trying to get with you or comfort.the emotional connection here is actually abusive,in that the intense sexual connection always has a painful side. the Saturn/moon aspect shows that feelings of devotion are present but opposed to Uranus and , these feelings will always be broken. there seems to be an underlying masochistic dynamic present. it going to feel good but then it is going to hurt afterwards.with Saturn opposed to orcus and Venus opposed to pluto and with eros opposed to psyche, the theme of the relationship is BDSM. so I don't know what to say.... if you like pleasure and pain,then this is the one for you, but don't think it will last.todd Wow, truly fascinating that you picked up on all of that. I can't say how much I value your insights, this relationship as been like a leech for me. It's another female and we have always been platonic, however everything you said is spot on. I am learning this week of its classic scapegoat/narcisisst qualities and the bigger theme of how this has been a terrible pattern of mine in my life. Can i ask how you guessed that she has broken up with a previous relationship and is looking for comfort? I don't know this but this was my first instinct when she reached out, as she only reaches out when the partner she scapegoated me to and eventually with, relationship starts to end. I cant thank you enough for the observation. The neptune in this friendship has always had me in a fog. todd quote:Originally posted by wayfinder: Wow, truly fascinating that you picked up on all of that. I can't say how much I value your insights, this relationship as been like a leech for me. It's another female and we have always been platonic, however everything you said is spot on. I am learning this week of its classic scapegoat/narcisisst qualities and the bigger theme of how this has been a terrible pattern of mine in my life. Can i ask how you guessed that she has broken up with a previous relationship and is looking for comfort? I don't know this but this was my first instinct when she reached out, as she only reaches out when the partner she scapegoated me to and eventually with, relationship starts to end. I cant thank you enough for the observation. The neptune in this friendship has always had me in a fog. I figured tht she was on the rebound because the nature of the composites so S/Mish. this meant that she wouldn't be reaching gout for a "healthy" connection. the composite has such strong abusive aspects that I figured that she as well as you have a history of such encounters, hence she was most likely reaching out because of the angst of a relationship breaking up.....elsewise there would be not reason to reach out.toddwayfinderMuch gratitude to you. This hit the nail on the coffin so to speak on being sure to not open that door again. Thank you!
This is a composite of a 15 year on and off friendship that has been incredibly hard to shake or get clarity on. I understand the nature of the Sun/square Uranus/Neptune has a lot to do with this. I am curious what others see in the chart and your perspective on the best way to hold space for a cordial relationship without letting those negative aspects suck us back in.
We have wonderful synastry and not that I am exactly looking to have a close relationship with this person again but we have been wildly surrounded by mutual friends, interests and networks our entire lives. I would like to find as much peace as I can co-existing without getting sucked back into any drama.
Thank you!
I'm thinking it's your composite Saturn in 11th opposing Jupiter in the 5th with the POF there that keeps bringing you back together. It's possible that when transiting Uranus in Taurus finishes squaring this aspect of your composite then things will suddenly change and you'll both be liberated. I think Uranus went direct around 3 degrees earlier this month and by the middle of April it will pass the 5 degree mark. Good luck.
Spring
quote:Originally posted by Springtimeflower:Hi Wayfinder,I'm thinking it's your composite Saturn in 11th opposing Jupiter in the 5th with the POF there that keeps bringing you back together. It's possible that when transiting Uranus in Taurus finishes squaring this aspect of your composite then things will suddenly change and you'll both be liberated. I think Uranus went direct around 3 degrees earlier this month and by the middle of April it will pass the 5 degree mark. Good luck.Spring
Thank you Spring, this is very helpful. I was so tunnel vision on the Composite that I didn't even think to consider the transits aspecting it currently.
This makes me wonder if this most recent wave has to do with the New Moon happening today conjunct that Saturn, hopefully a new chance at maturity and boundaries in the dynamic.
Thank you again!
well first off,this relationship is never going to be stable.
the sun is conjunct to eris, opposed to nessus and square to Uranus and Neptune, and square to the moon/Saturn midpoint.
eros is conjunct to Lilith and trine to the sun and eris and opposed to psyche.
venus is sextile to chiron and opposed to pluto.
these aspects show a extremely sexual attraction but no really a desire for love. I wood think that she has broken up with a previous relationship is trying to get with you or comfort.
the emotional connection here is actually abusive,in that the intense sexual connection always has a painful side. the Saturn/moon aspect shows that feelings of devotion are present but opposed to Uranus and , these feelings will always be broken.
there seems to be an underlying masochistic dynamic present. it going to feel good but then it is going to hurt afterwards.
with Saturn opposed to orcus and Venus opposed to pluto and with eros opposed to psyche, the theme of the relationship is BDSM.
so I don't know what to say.... if you like pleasure and pain,then this is the one for you, but don't think it will last.todd
quote:Originally posted by todd:hi wayfinderwell first off,this relationship is never going to be stable.the sun is conjunct to eris, opposed to nessus and square to Uranus and Neptune, and square to the moon/Saturn midpoint.eros is conjunct to Lilith and trine to the sun and eris and opposed to psyche.venus is sextile to chiron and opposed to pluto. these aspects show a extremely sexual attraction but no really a desire for love. I wood think that she has broken up with a previous relationship is trying to get with you or comfort.the emotional connection here is actually abusive,in that the intense sexual connection always has a painful side. the Saturn/moon aspect shows that feelings of devotion are present but opposed to Uranus and , these feelings will always be broken. there seems to be an underlying masochistic dynamic present. it going to feel good but then it is going to hurt afterwards.with Saturn opposed to orcus and Venus opposed to pluto and with eros opposed to psyche, the theme of the relationship is BDSM. so I don't know what to say.... if you like pleasure and pain,then this is the one for you, but don't think it will last.todd
Wow, truly fascinating that you picked up on all of that. I can't say how much I value your insights, this relationship as been like a leech for me. It's another female and we have always been platonic, however everything you said is spot on.
I am learning this week of its classic scapegoat/narcisisst qualities and the bigger theme of how this has been a terrible pattern of mine in my life.
Can i ask how you guessed that she has broken up with a previous relationship and is looking for comfort? I don't know this but this was my first instinct when she reached out, as she only reaches out when the partner she scapegoated me to and eventually with, relationship starts to end.
I cant thank you enough for the observation. The neptune in this friendship has always had me in a fog.
quote:Originally posted by wayfinder: Wow, truly fascinating that you picked up on all of that. I can't say how much I value your insights, this relationship as been like a leech for me. It's another female and we have always been platonic, however everything you said is spot on. I am learning this week of its classic scapegoat/narcisisst qualities and the bigger theme of how this has been a terrible pattern of mine in my life. Can i ask how you guessed that she has broken up with a previous relationship and is looking for comfort? I don't know this but this was my first instinct when she reached out, as she only reaches out when the partner she scapegoated me to and eventually with, relationship starts to end. I cant thank you enough for the observation. The neptune in this friendship has always had me in a fog.
I figured tht she was on the rebound because the nature of the composites so S/Mish. this meant that she wouldn't be reaching gout for a "healthy" connection. the composite has such strong abusive aspects that I figured that she as well as you have a history of such encounters, hence she was most likely reaching out because of the angst of a relationship breaking up.....elsewise there would be not reason to reach out.todd
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